Fab Four Forever Issue 11 November 1, 1997
Hi Everyone, Welcome to the 11th issue of the Fab Four Forever Club Newsletter. It's almost here, we are only one month away from our birthday issue. We will be one year old! Can you believe we have been around a whole year? It doesn't seem that long to me and I know there are some of you who have been around since our beginning too. Now, I will make this short so that you don't have to waste all your time listening to me. First, I just wanted to say what a great respose we have had so far for our big birthday issue. If anyone has anything they want to put in or any ideas, please email them to me. And of course, please come and stop by our website - Fab 4 Forever Club - or go to http://members.aol.com/Meg6212/index.html Well, I think that's it, see I told you it would be short. I hope you all enjoy the newsletter, are don't forget to see in your articles for the next issue and for our birthday :) -Meg President
Articles
From: stewarts@mindspring.com (david stewart) WOULD THE BEATLES HAVE BEEN AS POPULAR HAD THEY BEEN BLACK (african-american) If the Beatles had been black, do you think they would have reached the high success that they did during the 1960's and even beyond as solo artists? I mean, sure, if the music was incredible as it was no one would have cared about what colour they were right? But then again, would the Liverpool undergournd have gone to see them at the Cavern if they heard it was a bunch of black kids? And do you think Brian Epstein would have taken them under his wing? I'm not trying to accuse anyone of being a racist, but Decca turned them down...imagine if they had been "colored". That couldn;t have helped them out at all, unless they signed with Motown or something. If the Beatles could have signed with Motown and played the music they did, do you think they would have been as popular as they were? Do you think they would've have gotten some spaced out producer who turned it all into Sly and The Family Stone-esque songs? I'm not trying to sound racist or make other people sound it, but what do you think? Did the Beatles being nice Christian boys have an effect on their career? Love to hear your opinions. Angelo Badalamenti and David Lynch, Charles Bukowski, The Beatles and Dylan Thomas, http://www.mindspring.com/~stewarts/index.htm #oobu homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/7995/ From : Unknown ( Who ever sent in this article, please copy and paste it and email me to let me know, some how your email address was deleted ) i am a teenage beatle fan and NONE of my friends like the beatles. so i think most teens hear them on the radio & find that they are the greatest band in history. anyone that likes a band just because others do are crazy!! why is everyone tring to corrct the "peace or piece" issue, the matter of fact is that john isn't here to tell if he meant peace or piece. so please, i don't think john would want us to argue over this, he would probly want us to just listen to the music and apperciate it! PEACE, LOVE, & THE BEATLES RACHEL From: Sy kedelia I assume you all know that George Harrison's son, Dhani, is going to Brown University, a college in Providence, Rhode Island, which is where I live. Anyway, my friend's mother is the head of the art department there, and guess what? She has met him!!! She promised my mom that my the end of this year I will get to meet Dhani, and maybe even his father! My goal is life is to meet a beatle or one of their aquaninteces, and this is my chance! I will try to keep you all posted for details but you can always E-mail me if you are curious or if you just wanna chat. peace and love, Sy kedelia@aol.com From: Windchild First Beatle Facts- Before Mark David Chapman killed John he call a bunch of hotlines and police stations tellin them to stop him cause he was gona kill john but none of them believed him or did anything other wise John would be alive Mark came to new youk twice the second time he asked the devil to help him kill JOhn. John was shot at 5 times the fifth one missed. He was shot twice in the sholder blade and twice in the back. Mark did not run he just stood there and waited for the cops to come. Mark's dream came ture. He was know everywhere which he had planned on. His mom always told him as a child one day he'll be know all around the world. She was right. He didn't care how he did it as long as it happened. FAce it he was Crazy. Well ok that story is over now I want to tell you about my boyfriends little encounter with Paul McCartney. Well many of you that paul was online so Shaun gave him his phone number and sure enough Paul McCartney called him! I would have died! But no he got to talk to him but he did ask the question I want to know. Was His brother his twin because in a book it said they were and if you ever saw them youd notice there identacal. But actully there not there 1 year appart. Cool huh? THats all for now ta ta
Dreams
Well, you have all been sending in so many of your dreams, I thought maybe we should make a section just for your dreams. So don't stop sending them in, keep them coming!
From: mitchecp@whitman.edu (Carrie Mitchell) First of all, before I get to the actual dream, I have to say that I really enjoy getting your newsletter. I have only gotten two issues so far, but they are very interesting and bring up good points of debate. I especially like the dream section. I think it is cool that there is a place where devoted Beatlemaniacs can tell these stories to others who won't look at them like they have suddenly sprouted a guitar from thier forehead or something. Okay, now the wierd part: #1 I don't really remember how the dream started, but I was at a friend's house (one of those friends who is not actually real in real life, but in dreams you seem have known for years). She has rented a couple of movies, and we are going into a room to watch them. She opens the door, and although the room has aobut 20 people in it, the only one I notice is John Lennon, who is reclining on a bed, intently looking at a videocassette box. I walk over and ask what movie it is. He replies "The Adventures of Pippi Longstocking. It's my favorite." I think I woke up then, from the shock. Pippi Longstocking and John Lennon... what a combo. #2 This time, I was in some sort of parade or procession with John, Paul, and George. Instead of Ringo being there, Graham Chapman from Monty Python was there. So we are all walking and talking just like old friends, and also handing out tickets, I assumed later to a Beatles concert. Later, I notice that Graham Chapman has gone missing. Paul and John and George are quite a ways in front of me now, so I run up and tap Paul on the shoulder and try to explain that we have lost Graham. he hands me a ticket, just like I was waiting in line or something. So I try to tell John, who does the same thing. This is a bit irritating, so I stop and ask someone if they know what happened to Graham. They tell me he's dead. (He did die sometime in the 80s, so this is not really a big shock.) I run back up and try, this time, to explain to George that they will have an awfully hard time performing without Graham, and that he's dead. George looks at me and says seriously, "Well, John's been dead for years, and it hasn't been a problem yet." And then the dream kind of trailed off... I guess they must've got on all right... odd, though. --Carrie Mitchell From: FabGearNo9 I dreamed that I was in Japan (see, I'm taking Japanese classes at school so Japan has become a recurring subject) in the early sixties and I was walking along one of those pretty bridges that had a lot of cherry blossom trees around it. This young woman who was quite unattractive came up to me and asked me why I was here. She said plainly, "This is my bridge. You must not stand on my bridge. Get off of my bridge or I will have to push you off." I asked her who did she think she was. She said "Get off of Yoko's bridge or I shall push you off!" I then realized this woman was a younger version of Yoko. I walked off the bridge, not because I was afraid of being pushed, but I was just afraid of her. So I kept walking when I saw John wearing a top hat. He tipped his hat to me and said "G'day, young lady." He was headed in the direction of the bridge. I said to him, "Don't go on the bridge, there's a woman there who will push you off." John looked surprised. "That's evil!" he cried. "I will never ever ever cross that bridge in my entire life." He walked away and I was proud of myself for diverting the meeting of John and Yoko. From: JenHild120 MY most common dream it always starts out in the future, when i'm about 25 years old or so (11 years from now) and i have been a part of the invention of a TIME MACHINE. i get picked to test it out, because everyone else is afraid to. my first decision is to go to the year 1964 and meet the beatles. well, i do this, but unfortunately (yeah, right) the time machine breaks down, and the materials to fix it have not been discovered yet!!! so i'm **forced** to live in 1964. this is GREAT, though, because i have quickly become extremely good friends with John. we hang out together, and read each other's poems.....then flash forward to 1980....it's december and i guess i'm visiting john and yoko or something, i'm not really sure. well anyway, they are planning to go out, and then i remember what happens that night!!! i plead with them to not take a walk in the park, but it doesn't work!!!! so i sneak out behind them, and i end up taking a bullet for john!!!! (don't worry, it only hit my shoulder) so then, john is allowed to leave a full and happy life, and his (attemped) assassin goes to jail, for attempted murder =0) From: therubbersoul@juno.com (Justin J Jolkowsk) In the last issue, aniota@swbell.net (frank), shared some dreams of the Beatles, well, I too have had a dream with John Lennon in it. Here goes... I don't remember much of the dream, but what I do remember is that John Lennon and I were playing around like we were little kids, all except we weren't little kids. We were just having fun, and I remember being very happy. The only thing I remember him saying is that religion is dead. When I awoke, I was sad because that is when I remembered that John Lennon was shot years ago when I just a baby, and that made me realized that that joy and fun I had with John could never happen. Justin J TheRubberSoul therubbersoul@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~therubbersoul/home.html "Everybody must get stoned" ~ Bob Dylan
Beat Bag
From: Essex83 I would like to respond to the LSD argument. You said that John Lennon said it wasn't about LSD! Of course John Lennon wouldn't say, " yeah this song is about LSD because I like the experience!" Do you want the drug police to get him. We REALLY don't know so.........................don't state a fact they may be untrue! From: stewarts@mindspring.com (david stewart) >From: JoeCool578 > >This is in response to Smilee306's article and to Dave Stewart's article: >The both of you were discussing about the fact that a girl had written >"piece" of mind to the lyrics of 'happiness is a warm gun'. Well your both >wrong, that lyric isn't even from 'happiness is a warm gun', it's from 'I'm >so tired'!!!! So get your own stories straight before you go criticizing >other people!!! > >p.s. personally, i believe in smilee306's description of the piece of mind >thing. : ) gee, thanks. WE ALREADY FIGURED THAT OUT AWHILE AGO! way to go...ignore an stimulated conversation with your petty details. PS believe whatever you want...but I hope you read my new article before you settle down totally on an opposition. From: TealLeaper Regarding these comments made in the last newsletter... >oh give me a break! you can't say that John's "I'm So Tired" is up for an >open interpretation..... >"PEACE OF MIND" is a very widely said expression. do you think he wanted her >to yell at him, thus giving him "a piece of her mind"? I don't think so, >judging that during the song he says that he's really sad and nothing's >going right, basically. I would assume he wanted to be happy and not yelled at. Of course John's music is open to interpretation. How can we know what John meant? You can't say who is right or who is wrong, unless you wrote the song yourself or you spoke to John himself about it. John was a master of the Lewis Carroll style of play on words (just look at "I Am The Walrus"). He could very well have wanted a piece of her mind... Maybe he wanted to know what she was thinking. Who knows? Probably only John, and right now, he's not talking. =) -Bryce From: PennyLane8 After reading and reading and reading the ongoing debate over the "peace" of mind issue, I just want to ask why we need to look so closely at what she was saying anyway? Why can't the Beatles' music be whatever each person wants it to be? There doesn't have to be a set way of understanding it. It is what we want it to be, for each of us. Not one of us thinks exactly the same way, and that's a great thing about the Beatles' music, and all music and pretty much all art in general. We make our own judgements, it is something different for all of us. "Open to interpretation" is I think the right phrase here. It is there for us to see, hear, feel, or whatever, in the way that we want. And our opinions on it makes us unique. So if she wanted to write "peace", who cares? Or if she wrote "piece", I don't even remember which one it was, then let her. Let's have open minds, folks. There doesn't have to be a right or wrong, we can all share and enjoy =) Their music is for everyone, not just the ones who see it a certain way. Let it be for others what they want it to be, and for you it can be what YOU want it to be! And then we can all be one, filled with the spirit of the Beatles within us! (j/k about that last part there =) Thanks for listening everybody =) Meghan From: Unknown ( Who ever this was please copy and paste it into an email to me and tell me who it was from please, thanks ) As a new member, I would like to say that I really love the newsletter. I'm not one to delve into the "meanings" of their songs or anything. I just think that they were and still are the best band. When I was young, about 6 or 7, my Dad would sing "When I'm 64" to me. I used to hate it! Little did I know that before long, my parents would be the ones saying how sick of the Beatles they are. Only because I realized a couple years later how wrong that I was in saying that I would never listen to "their music". -Kristin
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From: Atedazawk http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/6722 From: therubbersoul@juno.com (Justin J Jolkowsk) I love this newsletter, I love hearing other people's view points and such. I too own and operate a Beatles Email Newsletter named The Pepperland Times. IF you are interested in recieving this newsletter, email us at pepperlandtimes@juno.com Well, that's it for the 11th issue of the Fab Four Forever Club. I hope you all enjoyed it. If you know anyone who would like to join this club, please just have then email Meg6212@aol.com or you can reply to this newsletter. Also, at any time if you want to be taken off this list and out of this club, simply email me and I will take you out. You should also email me if you have any address changing. I think that's all for now, so until next time :
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